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	<title>Comments on: memcached and the client: Database UDFs</title>
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		<title>By: NorthScale’s Memcached Data Management Technology Attracts Zynga And Others &#124; Startup Websites</title>
		<link>http://blog.northscale.com/northscale-blog/2009/11/memcached-and-the-client-database-udfs.html/comment-page-1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>NorthScale’s Memcached Data Management Technology Attracts Zynga And Others &#124; Startup Websites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt Ingenthron</title>
		<link>http://blog.northscale.com/northscale-blog/2009/11/memcached-and-the-client-database-udfs.html/comment-page-1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ingenthron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you mean about the DB being over worked, but if you&#039;re using a cache you&#039;re already lessening that MVCC overhead for all of the selects by servicing those requests from the distributed cache.  The only &quot;extra work&quot; usually in play with the UDF is that related to modifying data.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, handling it all from the application is an excellent approach and write-through caches can be nice (with some advantages and disadvantages).  Sometimes it&#039;s hard to teach all of the components of an app the new tricks though, so having the DB capabilities too sure can help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, that blog doesn&#039;t describe everything one may do with Database UDFs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you mean about the DB being over worked, but if you&#39;re using a cache you&#39;re already lessening that MVCC overhead for all of the selects by servicing those requests from the distributed cache.  The only &#8220;extra work&#8221; usually in play with the UDF is that related to modifying data.</p>
<p>Yes, handling it all from the application is an excellent approach and write-through caches can be nice (with some advantages and disadvantages).  Sometimes it&#39;s hard to teach all of the components of an app the new tricks though, so having the DB capabilities too sure can help.</p>
<p>Besides, that blog doesn&#39;t describe everything one may do with Database UDFs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashwin Jayaprakash</title>
		<link>http://blog.northscale.com/northscale-blog/2009/11/memcached-and-the-client-database-udfs.html/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashwin Jayaprakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letting the Database update the Cache seems like a bad idea. The DB is already overworked in most cases which is why there is a Cache. Also, the DB sometimes does not even have access to the Application+Cache network.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why not delete have a Write-through Cache that is always updated/deleted first and then let the cache update the DB? Or perhaps do both from the client itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letting the Database update the Cache seems like a bad idea. The DB is already overworked in most cases which is why there is a Cache. Also, the DB sometimes does not even have access to the Application+Cache network.</p>
<p>Why not delete have a Write-through Cache that is always updated/deleted first and then let the cache update the DB? Or perhaps do both from the client itself?</p>
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